"When we're not willing to hold the complexity, the simple answers are the wrong ones... Often times, even people who are pro-immigrant talk about the people that we walk with at the border like heroes. And folks who are anti-immigrant talk about them as villains. But neither of those actually resonate as true. The people we are working with are really ordinary people in extraordinary circumstances."

Joanna Williams, the Executive Director of the Kino Border Initiative and Joaquin Pannunzio, a Contemplative Leaders in Action (CLA) New York Alum and former Kino Border Initiative Volunteer, recently joined the CLA community to discuss the theme of "Leading in Complexity." They discuss the complexity of the work of the Kino Border Initiative in accompanying immigrants as well as prayer and contemplation.